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  1. AleSmith Brewing Sublime Mexican Lager Release and Event Details • thefullpint.com
    June 22, 2017 @ 3:10 pm

    […] READ: This Whole Mexican Lager Thing […]

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  2. Ben
    May 9, 2017 @ 6:37 am

    So you are against Light Amerifan Lagers, NEIPA’s, white IPAs, RIS’s, etc…?

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    • Lew Bryson
      April 3, 2018 @ 5:52 am

      No, of course not, and your question doesn’t make sense. Those beers are actually different from their origins. Mexican lager isn’t significantly different.

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  3. Bill
    May 5, 2017 @ 10:59 am

    On the validity of the term “Mexican lagers” beyond simply “A lager brewed in Mexico”: No arguments obviously on Mexican lagers’ heritage coming from Europe, but… would you agree that one can recognize that the taste profile of the set of “lagers brewed in Mexico and imported to the US” is distinct enough from “Bud/Miller/Coors and their light variants” and both these sets are distinct taste-wise from “Molson/Labatts and their variants” and all three are distinct taste-wise from “Heineken/Grolsch/etc.”… ? I think drinkers know what they expect a “Mexican lager” to taste like, consider it different enough from the various other sets of lagers, and thus have a reason to say “hey, have a Mexican beer with that food you’re calling Mexican food.” We can disagree or agree on the food pairing, but I’m pretty sure you’d recognize that there’s… well, not terroir, but something that helps you recognize a beer as “Mexican” when you drink it, the way you’d assume another lager was a Euro-lager when you drank that. And I think US breweries are presumably trying to replicate that flavor profile when they brew a “Mexican-style” beer. Yep, also, they’re chasing $$$. And yep, maybe calling “Mexican-style lager” a “Style” is going too far. But I bet you could drink one and say, “no, they missed the mark” or “yeah, tastes like Modelo Especial”.

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    • Lew Bryson
      April 3, 2018 @ 5:56 am

      “would you agree that one can recognize that the taste profile of the set of “lagers brewed in Mexico and imported to the US” is distinct enough from “Bud/Miller/Coors and their light variants” and both these sets are distinct taste-wise from “Molson/Labatts and their variants” and all three are distinct taste-wise from “Heineken/Grolsch/etc.”… ?”

      Well…no. Did you read what I wrote? That’s pretty much my whole point. I don’t believe that you or I could pick out the Mexican-made beers from American, Canadian, or most European mass market lagers in a blind tasting.

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      • Jeff
        May 2, 2018 @ 7:03 am

        I would (politely) disagree with the assertion that a person can’t discern the taste of a brewery’s ‘Mexican Lager’ vs a Bud/Coors/Miller macro variant. They are distinctly different, and if you were to contact a brewer (brewery) at Oskar Blues or Full Sail, or wherever else, I would bet you that the malt bill, hop schedule, yeast strain, etc are not all that similar to any macros. I personally know what I’m getting when I drink a Beerito and I surely don’t think it tastes ANYTHING like a macro variant on the shelf at my local supermarket. Not even on the same planet in terms of taste, in my opinion.

        If your piece has done anything for me, it’s actually brought up MY annoyance with breweries that are now starting to make beers that they playfully coin as ‘Our lightest beer’ or some variation of that as many brewpub seekers in the US still saddle up to the bar and are looking for something that tastes like Coors Light. So, I suppose as a way to try and appease the masses and make a buck, a lot of breweries are starting to make a fairly bland tasting, rice adjunct, watery beverage so that a person that walks into a brewery can experience a beer that tastes like Keystone, I guess. To each there own, I suppose, and it probably winds up being one of the brewery’s best sellers in the pub, but I think it goes away from the creative and experimental nature of why breweries even exist if we are trying to clone SAB or Anheuser.

  4. Bill
    May 5, 2017 @ 10:41 am

    No arguments obviously on Mexican lagers’ heritage coming from Europe, but… I’d assert that one can recognize that the taste profile of the set of “lagers brewed in Mexico and imported to the US” is distinct enough from “Bud/Miller/Coors and their light variants” and both these sets are distinct taste-wise from “Molson/Labatts and their variants” and all three are distinct taste-wise from “Heineken/Grolsch/etc.”… I think drinkers know what they expect a “Mexican lager” to taste like, consider it different enough from the various other sets of lagers, and thus have a reason to say “hey, have a Mexican beer with that food you’re calling Mexican food.” We can disagree or agree on the food pairing, but I’m pretty sure you’d recognize that there’s… well, not terroir, but something that helps you recognize a beer as “Mexican” when you drink it, the way you’d assume another lager was a Euro-lager when you drank that. And I think US breweries are presumably trying to replicate that flavor profile when they brew a “Mexican-style” beer.

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  5. Mark
    May 4, 2017 @ 1:14 pm

    What kind of nonsense is this?

    You start the article carrying on about how people from Mexico that want to point out the true meaning of Cinco de Mayo are basically people that should get over themselves. In the same breath you have a problem with people not being specific about what a Mexican Lager truly is?

    Are you intentionally being a hypocrite, or are you just a moron? And your moron readers agreeing with you are just as bad.

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    • Lew Bryson
      April 3, 2018 @ 5:59 am

      Right, because 1) it’s about beer, which in context (this is a beer website, I’m a drinks writer) is more important; and 2) the whole thing is an over-the-top rant. Okay? No morons or hypocrites.

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  6. Aron
    May 3, 2017 @ 3:56 pm

    Hey Bob, clearly you have no idea who Lew Bryson is. Unlike you, Lew has been one of the most respected beer and whisk(e)y writers on the scene for twenty years.

    Clearly he rustled your jimmies, to use a phrase I’m sure near and dear to your heart.

    Now why don’t you think about it before you cut yourself on that edginess.

    (Also, anyone who uses the term ‘SJW’ in an argument automagically loses said argument. )

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  7. CraftCascade
    May 3, 2017 @ 3:11 pm

    Definitely takes some courage to take a stance like that in the days of the Internet. I hope people can see that you did say it’s a good style of beer. I’ll definitely be discussing this with my friends. Great read!

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    • MexicanTroubador
      May 5, 2019 @ 7:08 pm

      Haha. Hey Lew…have a source on those yeast strains? #homeworkisnotfunanddoesnotrule

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  8. Leslie Patino
    May 3, 2017 @ 3:10 pm

    Great piece, Lew! My husband, a third generation Cuauhtemoc employee, brewed for over 25 years at Cuauhtemoc and Coors. Ever since we first heard of U.S. Mexican-style lagers, he’s said exactly what you did. They’re basically macro-style Vienna lagers with–gasp!–corn. Tell me again, whatever happened to all that high-minded talk about how craft brewers will never cheapen their beers with adjuncts?

    Signed,
    Not a #1 fan of U.S. Mexican lagers or Mexican Mexican lagers

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    • Lew Bryson
      April 3, 2018 @ 6:00 am

      Thanks! Best to your husband, thanks for all the beers!

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  9. Bob
    May 2, 2017 @ 11:31 pm

    You’re a fucking jackass. This is the equivalent of an SJW screaming cultural appropriation. What’s next no Italian food? It’s beer you idiot, stop taking the fun out of it. To quote myself – “you suck and your opinion is dogshit.” Thankfully you’re in a cubicle and not running a brewery because god knows the world needs another BA beer.

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    • Lew Bryson
      April 3, 2018 @ 6:05 am

      I’m not a brewer. I’m a guy whose job it is to think about beer, and then scribble it down. That’s all. Sometimes I’m trying to make a point, sometimes I’m just screwing around. Movie critics don’t make movies, restaurant critics don’t run kitchens…we know that, and we get the difference. On the other hand, we aren’t selling beer, either. We have independence from that.
      As for taking the fun out of beer…sorry, Bob, I had a lot of fun writing this, and reading your response made me laugh too. Fun rules!

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