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  1. tim campbell
    May 13, 2012 @ 2:16 pm

    I think we need to add a category for BA beers. How can you put a beer and its BA counterpart in the same category. Its a common thing done, so it would be a full category. For example KBS, CBS, and FBS are in the Imp Stout category.


  2. olllllo
    May 10, 2012 @ 10:59 am

    The BJCP, its style guidelines, the judging process have nothing to do with the BA run GABF and the WBC.

    The primary purpose of the BJCP is to provide feedback to brewers. The comments are supposed to be more important than the score.

    The BA has their own style guidelines.

    Their are commercial interests at hear with GABF and WBC awards. You won’t see a homebrewer trying to brew up an Australasian, Latin American or Tropical-Style Light Lager anytime soon.


  3. Bob
    May 10, 2012 @ 9:53 am

    Seeing as hype, artificial “rarity” and “trade” value are not in the current World Beer Cup guidelines, then yes, I suppose there needs to be less restrictive guidelines.


  4. Mike
    May 10, 2012 @ 9:33 am

    You should also note that the World Beer Cup doesn’t go by BJCP guidelines at all. They are a set of guidelines the BA puts together, basically derived from each years previous competition(s), the yearly GABF, and biyearly WBC and judges feedback from those events.


  5. Bill F
    May 10, 2012 @ 9:02 am

    Speaking as a Certified BJCP Judge, I like the idea. In some ways, the guidelines may be too restrictive. For two years in a row, I’ve participated in judging at a local beer and wine festival, where we do exactly what you’re suggesting: We have a blind taste test. The beers are categorized as light, amber, and dark, and we pick the best beers based on their unqualified (i.e., undefined) characteristics. Does it have good aroma? Is it clear? Good head? Above all, does it taste good?

    It’s challenging without the BJCP Guidelines to reference, but we’ve surprised ourselves with our picks both years.


  6. Nick
    May 10, 2012 @ 8:51 am

    Cool idea though I’m not sure it’s necessary – it would be fun though.

    Categories help because the best bourbon barrel beer isn’t better by style than the best hefeweizen. You certainly can have a personal favorite, but that’s different.

    95 categories is a lot, and there are several ‘specialty’ categories that are open to almost any interpretation of beer. Take a good look at the category list, I don’t think it’s a restrictive as you imply. Which beers aren’t winning due to the guidelines?

    I don’t think many beers are missing out on medals because of the design of the categories. I would agree with you, I don’t think most brewers care if those beers win awards. That isn’t what is selling them.

    You’d just end up with stout lovers voting for stouts, IPA lovers voting for double IPA’s, etc. You’re basically throwing a party so that the people can duplicate the results of the highest rated beers on beer advocate/rate beer. I’m not sure what I’d get out of a popularity contest driven by others people’s tastes.


  7. Diana
    May 10, 2012 @ 8:46 am

    Actually Palate Wrecker did win Bronze for Imperial IPA, and most of the other breweries you mentioned won awards for other beers.

    There are experimental and specialty categories for beers that are outside of the norm. There are also a number of wood/barrel aged categories. Check out the winners at


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