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  1. Phil Robertson
    January 29, 2018 @ 8:50 pm

    Gas concentrations affect flavor (as you did a soft pour and not releasing them), releasing gases also affect aroma. That’s why you pour a beer into a glass, aroma affects flavor, flat beer vs carbonated beer tastes different, despite being the same liquid. Just as you proved in your experiment. It’s the same liquid, just treated with gas differently. The beer is identical, user error made it different. No different than saying this bottle of bells that is 2 weeks old tastes different than the can that’s 4 months old, but how was I supposed to know that age will make the beer taste different. How would someone know these special beer instructions beforehand after all.

    Bottom line, You are supposed to be a beer authority. You reviewed the exact same liquid and said they taste different and have different characteristics, through only your own user error and failure. If you want to write an article about how it’s confusing that you have to pour it hard, that has its own merit, but you are misleading people into thinking that it’s a different flavor and aroma, which if you did it right, is the same.

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    • GT Wharton
      January 29, 2018 @ 9:13 pm

      Hi Phil,

      I did not pour the bottled version flat. Age very well may be the difference here, as the canned version was fresher. I would love to have a bottle and can from the same bottling date, but that wasn’t an option for me when I purchased these. So they are definitely not the “exact same liquid”. They are also not treated with gas differently as far as I know. Your science also does not hold up. The harder your pour, the more gas will leave the solution. Shake the beer up and let all the dissolved gasses leave, and you will get flat beer faster. That intense force to pour is merely for the cascade effect and doesn’t affect the aroma or flavor. You are literally talking about 5 ounces of the bottle not being poured forcefully enough as reason to discredit this entire review and attack me personally on now four different occassions in public and privately.

      Take care,

      GT

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  2. Phil Robertson
    January 28, 2018 @ 6:24 pm

    You screwed up that you are supposed to pour hard. Then complain it didn’t cascade. You are a genuinely dumb person. When you saw you screwed up, why didn’t you get another bottle and not be a dummy?

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    • GT Wharton
      January 28, 2018 @ 8:04 pm

      Thank you, Phil, for the constructive criticism. The canned version is more user-friendly, obviously, since it doesn’t require any special pouring skills. If I messed it up, then anyone else buying this beer is bound to mess this up their first time as well. If you have friends over for a party and one beer out of all the others has special pouring requirements, how do you expect anyone to know that beforehand? The instructions are on the bottle cap, granted, but I don’t think your typical beer drinker and even enthusiast is looking for special instructions on the bottle cap. Usually, the bottle cap is just blank or a logo and is ignored. The canned version fixes that problem. I admit that I messed up. I think that is enough to say in my review.

      In addition, whether or not a beer “reverse cascades” is not going to affect the aroma and taste, which is the primary meat of a beer review. In this case, you can see from the photo that end result is that the beers look identical. The only difference is that one did not do a visual effect. That’s a very small part of this review and did not affect my overall impression.

      Thanks again,

      GT

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