Is The Beer Trade Scene Getting Out of Hand?
Anyone who’s relatively new to craft beer runs right to the RateBeer or BeerAdvocate ‘Bests’ lists to find the most coveted and seemingly tasty beers to try. While many of those beers can be obtained locally, there is a great handful that aren’t, and that’s where beer trading comes in.
After my first trade, I realized there was some basic etiquette involved that still holds true today. First and foremost, the trade has to be agreed upon (duh). At a high level, both sides place a value on their beer. This is usually pretty easy to agree upon, as retail prices are the same everywhere, and brewery only beer releases publish the price of the beer prior to the sale. Secondary to price tag value is the rareness of the beer. If 50,000 bottles of a certain beer is made, it would be less rare/valuable than a brewery only released beer with a bottle count of 1,500. So once both sides agree on the trade and the value, the fairness is balanced out with any extra beers added to one of the sides. From there, a good trade will involve bonus or extra beers, usually comprising of local,tasty beer, or if you are very kind and generous, a very special beer that will really impress your new or existing trading partner.
At the peak of my trading habit, I had over 50 trades under my belt on RateBeer alone. I also dabbled in a few Facebook trade groups, and if I couldn’t get my trade “done”, I would pop over to BeerAdocate. I got to try so many beers I never had access to, and even got to try some of the then rarest beers in the country. Then one day, things changed. I can’t pinpoint exactly when, but things took a turn for the worst.
In addition to the typical line cutting one experiences at brewery only bottle releases, beer enthusiasts began assembling “mule teams”, in which a group of people would band together to game the bottle limit of a particular sale. If a brewery had instituted a two bottle limit, a person would come with their mom, grandma, their cousin, and maybe a hobo from the gas station. This person will then proceed to go on social media and show a picture of their 10 beers from a 2 bottle limit sale. This really has put a negative light on the enjoyment of craft beer, and the intimate relationship small breweries are trying to forge with their local customer base.
Because of all of this nonsense, I have stopped buying into the hype, and have backed away from trading. I’ve found that unless I have the newest hype beer, many of the folks on the trading block have no interest in beers I find to be special. It’s also hindered my ability to acquire and taste these coveted beers from around the country for the purpose of The Full Pint.
In the last few weeks, I’ve noticed this new aspect of the trading culture has escalated into an even uglier territory. During Tampa Beer Week, Cycle Brewing released some very limited, brewery only released bottles for every day of the week. They are treated strong ales with various adjuncts and or barrel treatments. These beers sold out quick, and even locals had a hard time snagging them. Immediately, there were many wild offers placed on trading boards and Facebook groups, with the hope of “winning the trade.” By “winning the trade”, I am referring to a trade designed to be lopsided in favor of the person trading the Cycle Brewing beers. To me, this is a horrible practice, and goes against trading etiquette mentioned above, in which you try to send something back of equal value. In addition to these wild trade offers, many were seriously advertising a resale of the beer in excess of $1,000 for the entire set of Cycle beers. While some have deep pockets and are willing to pay this, this starts a long thread of negative comments directed towards the poster and subsequently the beer itself.
In response to the nonsense caused by the opportunists trying to flip the Cycle bottles, locals to Bottle Logic Brewing in Anaheim responded to this by mimicking the behavior with the release of Ground State, a special treated stout brewed for their 2nd anniversary. Within minutes, lopsided trade offers and highly marked up sale offers flooded social media and trade boards.
Sadly, there are more losers in this than winners in this situation. First of all, people who wanted to simply taste and enjoy either the Cycle beers or the Bottle Logic beers couldn’t, as they were shut out by the people gaming the system. Secondly, and mentioned briefly above, the brewers take a few hits from this mess. If you scan any of the for sale or lopsided trade threads, folks who are angry or jealous will fire shots at the brewery or the beer, claiming it’s not that good or not that rare, in hopes of lowering the value. To me that’s a sin, as the breweries are mostly not at fault for the secondary market value. It also brings them unnecessary and often times negative noise on subsequent releases.
For people who share my feelings of disappointment, here is how I navigate around this troubling culture. I stick to easy to get beer that I really enjoy. If I meet a friend from out of state, I forge a friendship and a trading partnership that doesn’t revolve around “winning the trade” or chasing the low bottle count beers. Luckily here in California, we have very delicious offerings from the bottom to the top of the state. I also realized if I really want to try a hard to get beer from Vermont, I should probably visit Vermont and enjoy it there. I’ve also lucked out trying some of these beers at bottle shares, although I feel guilty at how much more work others are putting into a trade, which I am easily geezing a taste off of.
I really do believe the trade scene has gotten out of hand, and I hope that some people grow up and realize that we aren’t dealing with Tiffany Collectables, sports cards, or even stocks. This beer was artfully brewed to drink, not passed around in a hot FedEx truck multiple times over 3 years. While brewers have plenty on their plate with running a small factory that makes beer, I hope they can contribute to curtailing some of this poisonous culture surrounding their small batch products. I’m hoping more breweries move to online sales, rewarding local lovers of good beer.
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Drootz
March 28, 2016 @ 5:46 pm
Best way to go about things find a person, in an area of which you would like to try the beers and establish a regular trading partner. Where you just send each other boxes of beers. Always best to start out $4$ but as you both go on you will notice you will tend to care less and less about the value you are sending vs what you are receiving because you eventually evolve into a friendship. And now you have someone you can drink with, show you around, tell you the best places to go, Should you ever visit that state. This is truly the best way to go about things. I have a few partners in various area’s and can easily say we both get good rare stuff and send to each other knowing that the other person will do the same for you.
ThirstyT
March 27, 2016 @ 10:06 am
I like to trade. I’ve definitely found good trade partners and have enjoyed both the hunt and the taste. But there is definitely an issue with the types described in the article. Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. @blakex do you really have fundamental observation just sitting? I’d love to try it. Any chance you can help?
Tom
March 27, 2016 @ 6:58 am
If you buy secondary market beer prices or trade for the new hype beers, you’re an asshat
Justin K
March 25, 2016 @ 7:57 am
Hey Melissa M, can you get Treehouse beers? I live in WI and would love to trade for some if you can. Also, it would be cool if we could set up a nice fair trade in the comment thread of this particular article.
Chris
March 24, 2016 @ 3:22 pm
I agree with the part about avoiding beer trading altogether. Not worth the hassle, IMO.
pablote
March 24, 2016 @ 10:04 am
http://mybeercellar.com/?itm=47006
geez…..
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blakek
March 24, 2016 @ 7:47 am
Wait, I can get $250 for the Fundamental Observations sitting in my fridge??!
LBB
March 24, 2016 @ 6:57 am
booooooo fucking hooooooo
Dan Wanderer
March 24, 2016 @ 5:30 am
It’s not getting out of hand, it has gotten out of hand. The reality is that there is a population where the thrill of the chase is stronger than the thrill of the taste.
I live in the midwest, but was recently in San Diego and had a pint of Pliny the Elder at Hamilton’s. For midwesterners, that’s a whale! Ya know what? It’s a good beer, but no better than some I can get at my local beer store with zero effort.
This year I forgot, really, to buy tickets for the Founders KBS release. I think I’ve turned the corner. I’m a reformed whale hunter.
pablote
March 23, 2016 @ 7:53 pm
they’re running off their rep from Foundational Observation which was a good beer, but not really all that great. it was good, but $250 on beercellar.com good? trading is still a good thing as long as the hype doesnt get too strong a hold of you…. just trade for the regular local stuff and leave the low-count stuff out. you dont know how it’s been handled and you might get one that was left in the back seat (in the sun) for a few days while on a binge….. right?
Melissa M.
March 23, 2016 @ 5:26 pm
I like trading, and trading beer as a girl can be extremely difficult. I live in Western MA and travel a lot. I think it’s fun when I tell the person I’m about to trade with, when they ask what I’m looking for, I tell them my favorite types of beer. I love being able to try new things, from wherever I can. Let’s trade! Haha
blakek
March 23, 2016 @ 3:03 pm
But will there really be any huge value of Ground State since it didn’t even sell out on the first day? Either way, I used to trade back in the day, but the cost of shipping pretty much put a stop to that. I’ll just enjoy what I can find locally and through the brewery clubs I’m in. It’s more than enough beer for me and I’m fine these days knowing I won’t have any Hill Farmstead (unless some place like Beachwood has it on tap).